{"id":22,"date":"2004-11-24T08:09:13","date_gmt":"2004-11-24T15:09:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/?p=22"},"modified":"2004-11-24T08:09:13","modified_gmt":"2004-11-24T15:09:13","slug":"do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/?p=22","title":{"rendered":"Do as we say, not as we do?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/layer8.typepad.com\/photos\/uncategorized\/riotpolice.jpg\" onclick=\"window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=430,height=305,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Riotpolice\" title=\"Riotpolice\" src=\"http:\/\/layer8.typepad.com\/layer_8\/images\/riotpolice.jpg\" width=\"100\" height=\"70\" border=\"0\" style=\"float: left; margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/news\/World\/World-condemns-Ukraines-disputed-poll\/2004\/11\/24\/1101219622176.html?oneclick=true\">the Ukraine teeters on the brink of widespread &#8220;civil&#8221; conflict over disputed election results<\/a>, the U.S. is urging the government to hold off certification of results until fraud and voting irregularity allegations have been investigated:<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/news\/World\/World-condemns-Ukraines-disputed-poll\/2004\/11\/24\/1101219622176.html?oneclick=true\"><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The White House said in a statement: &#8220;We strongly support efforts to review the conduct of the election and urge Ukrainian authorities not to certify results until investigations of organised fraud are resolved.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p>At the same time, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsday.com\/news\/nationworld\/ats-ap_politics12nov24,0,436143.story?coll=sns-ap-toppolitics\">a federal judge has ruled that Ohio&#8217;s recount can wait until after result certification<\/a>, at which point only 9 days will remain before electors meet.<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the picture of flowers in riot shields, and hearing of 200,000 people in the streets of Kiev, I am reminded of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.relativepath.org\/2004\/11\/occupation_poli.html\">relativepath&#8217;s recent introspection about identifying the &#8220;good guys&#8221; in Fallujah<\/a> [my paraphrase].  There is little direct relation in terms of subject matter, but for the question:<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.relativepath.org\/2004\/11\/occupation_poli.html\"><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>What is your breaking point?&#160; Are we past it?&#160; What will it look like when it comes?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ukraine.  Ohio.  Who is the beacon of democracy and freedom?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As the Ukraine teeters on the brink of widespread &#8220;civil&#8221; conflict over disputed election results, the U.S. is urging the government to hold off certification of results until fraud and voting irregularity allegations have been investigated: The White House said in a statement: &#8220;We strongly support efforts to review the conduct of the election and <a href='https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/?p=22'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-3-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=22"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=22"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=22"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.netfluvia.org\/layer8\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=22"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}